Wednesday, August 23, 2006

The Maverick

If Joe Ford Jr. isn't careful, he could end up with a repuation as a renegade.

Then again, I've always liked renegades, so I'm quite cool with that.

For those unaware of what I'm talking about, Joe Jr. posted this comment on another blog:

I am a Democrat. Unless or until there is reason to do otherwise, I will be supporting the Democrat nominee which is Sen. Cohen.

I still wish the best for Jake and feel that he will garner significant votes no matter who may or may not be supporting him. I wish him the best! However, party unity is very important to me and as a Democrat, I have a duty to support fellow Democrats.

First, I would like to congratulate him. He's shown something that Nikki Tinker, Ed Stanton, Julian Bolton, et al have failed to show: That the interests of the people of Tennessee's 9th District should be placed ahead of personal ambition. He gets that. They don't. They lost, so they can't bring themselves to care what kind of shape they leave the party in.

But first and foremost, he's done the right thing for his family. If Harold Ford Jr. is to have any chance of beating Bob Corker this fall, he's going to need a Democratic Party that is in prime fighting shape. He doesn't get it if his younger brother splits the party and fuels resentment along the way.

I hope that Joe Ford Jr. sticks around. Personally, I'd like to crack open a brew or two with him sometime, talk to the man, and see what his plans are for the future.

Thanks, Joe.

29 comments:

Desi Franklin said...

Hey, bloggers, as a reader and poster on local blogs, I have a suggestion that you bloggers will probably will not like but I hope you will consider.

Why don't you all shut down your blogs and post only on the Cue? You know how on dailykos and mydd there are always a half dozen or so resident bloggers who all post there? You would be the Armandos and Chris Bowerses and Jeromes and Markoses of the combined site.

It was would achieve much greater critical mass of posts for you all to blog on one site, leaving each of you free to pursue your day jobs (and law school) without feeling guilty for not posting all the time.

It would eliminate the issue of having different comments posted on the Cue vs. your own blogs.

It would enable a reader to find the (let's fact it, at least for now) white progressive Memphis bloggers' viewpoint all in one place.

It would allow you all to add additional new bloggers as space and interest allowed.

Maybe most importantly, it would get the combined number of hits that your individual blogs get, which could be used to showcase how much interest people have in these issues.

You all have differing styles, interests, etc. so it would not be overlapping, except on big topics of interest, but you could work something out on that among yourselves. You could even allow diaries like on mydd and kos so that nonbloggers could opine if they felt called to do so on some issue.

Waddya think?

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bob said...

Hate to be a cynic, but what if The Maverick is doing just what The Family told him to do? "Take the heat off the rest of us, Joe."

JSF said...

Freedonian--

You are correct. If HFJ is going to win the Senate race, then he will need a FULLY UNITED Democratic party behind his efforts. Even with all the Democrats behind HFJ, if everyone votes strictly down party lines and past patterns, it will be a difficult task. If the party is splintered, then his chances for success are remote.

I do not envy the position that HFJ is in, because he is damned if he does, damned if doesn't. If he endorses Cohen, then some will say that he betraying his brother. If HFJ endorses Jake, then many Democrats will be upset that he is not supporting the party's duly elected nominee. No matter what he chooses, he will lose some potential votes.

For HFJ to win the Senate race, I believe he needs to the following to happen:

--Full Democratic Party support with everyone in the party on board (when I'm hearing people say that they plan to vote for Corker or sit the election out, that is not a good sign);

--Huge Democratic Party get-out-the-vote and voter registration drive throughout the state;

--Cross-over votes from independents and 3rd parties;

--10,000+ new voters;

--10%-20% cross-over votes from the Republican Party.

It will be a difficult task under any circumstances, but if anyone can do it, it will be HFJ. Despite the odds stacked up against him, I believe that HFJ will find some way to pull it off in November.

Also I have not spoken with anyone in my Family about Cohen, Jake and this race, so no one in the Family has put me up to saying these words or any other words. Despite what people may think, I am my own man and say what I feel is best for the District as a whole.

Freedonian said...

Desi,

I removed your email address from that message. I set up the mailbag so no one would have to put their email addresses on the web like that; I'm sorry that you had to. I copied it down, and you'll be hearing from me.

The suggestion isn't a bad one, but I'm not sure how well it would fly. I know Pesky has a couple of partners that are not participating in The Cue for various reasons. I'm not 100% clear how well it would work out if we were all posting directly to The Cue. I'll take it up with the other guys and see if they know a way it could work well.

In the early planning stages of The Cue, we discussed it as almost a "Justice League"-style entity--- Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman (Pam, how would you feel about wearing this costume? Just a thought)all have their own thing, and then they have the Justice League as a group effort. That was the original intent, and it's still kind of taking shape. I certainly know what you mean--- "One stop shopping" would be nice. I'm just not sure how to make a Kos-style site with Diaries work with our existing framework.

Freedonian said...

Bob, it's certainly possible. But Harold is in a unique position; He could endorse Cohen and not lose ground in the black community. He has chosen not to.

Freedonian said...

Joe, I agree with you almost 100%. The only thing I take issue with is this:

--Cross-over votes from independents and 3rd parties;

I think chasing the indie/ 3rd party vote is what's put him in the lurch he's in. Had he run a little further from the center, he could have helped build the Democratic base. The 9th district is the perfect one to do that in, and I will forever view it as a wasted opportunity.

He's far from the only one to do this; I think Bredesen does the same. I don't buy into the 50%+1 vote school of politics. You build the power of the party by building a base. When you do that, you not only help your long term prospects, but you build the party down ticket. Help out down ticket, and you get to redistrict nearly by your own definition.

It's probably too late for him to do that now. It takes more than 2.5 months to build a base. It's a long term strategy.

Kate said...

Joe,

Thank you so much for running a clean campaign in the primary. I really hope that a lot of the other candidates will take a cue from you and Lee Harris and learn that if this district is going to move forward, the race-bating has to stop. Politics not pigment, right? You have my sincere respect for the way you have handled yourself over the past year. Kudos.




(And I really, really liked "Politic Yo Hustle.)

JSF said...

Kate--

I'm glad you liked "Politic Yo Hustle." We're still working on a full-length album that should be completed within the next couple of months. K-97 was playing "Politic Yo Hustle" on the radio for a few days around Memorial Day before the powers that be removed it from the rotation.

I'll keep you updated on the album.

Joe

Kate said...

That is awesome.

JSF said...

To Freedonian--

I agree with you about not chasing the votes without having solidified your base. I'll clarify what I meant about getting 3rd party/independent votes.

Any Democrat needs to first solidify his base. If you haven't solidified your base, then you shouldn't focus on attracting voters from other areas.

However if HFJ is to win it, he will need a fully solidified Democratic base, and in addition, he will likely need some independent/3rd party voters to vote for him. I am basing that on the numbers. Based on recent Senatorial elections, if people simply vote down party lines then HFJ will have no chance against Corker.

HFJ will need every single Democratic vote that he can get. Because of the numbers, this Democratic vote alone may not be enough. Since it is not likely that many Republicans will vote for a black, Democrat in the Ford family, HFJ will need to get these additional votes from elsewhere. The only other places to get votes are new voters and indie/3rd party voters.

You are right though -- it takes a long time to build a base and it may be too late for HFJ to build this base especially when some Democrats are not excited about HFJ. If HFJ had built a strong base from the beginning, then perhaps this energy would have caused 3rd party/indie voters to vote Democrat and for HFJ. As it stands, this may not happen.

autoegocrat said...

Desi -- I have a solution to your problem soming soon. It's not ready yet, but you can take a peek here. It's nowhere near done, but you can at least mark down the address.

Joe -- a long time ago I wrote (concerning your family) that it's as if Memphians are going through the entire box of candy, hoping to find the right one. I don't know if you're it, but it's a shame that you've been in California for so long. You have absolutley been a class act throughout this entire race. Not to mention the fact that you were running on a true progressive platform. Three cheers for that.

I've been one of Harold Jr's loudest Democratic critics, and I am fairly certain he will lose for all the reasons you describe, but like you, I still think he can pull it off.

Here's the key for me: he needs to win my trust back. For the rest of Tennessee, he needs to win their trust, period. His actions appear to me to be entirely self-serving, to the extent that every single vote he made in Congress was not based on his conscience, but on his statewide ambitions. No sane human conscience can produce the schizophrenic hybrid morality expressed in his voting record.

I've never seen him do anything purely because it was the right thing to do. His every movement betokens either hesitaition or calculation.

Maybe you can talk some sense into him, because he doesn't listen to me. A shame, too, because that is exactly what the Ford name used to mean to me.

Hell, look at who I'm saying this to.

Blinders Off said...

This is too surreal for me. Before coming to Freedonian’s blog I tried posting a comment on TFT it was too long to load up, therefore, I posted my comment on LWC. As the day went on, I decided to delete my post and email WTL. I am positive after reading this post WTL will probably share it with you.

I agree with every one of you and this is THE BEST post and comments of the year that I have read. JSF I hope you are staying, endorsing the Democrat nominee with a Ford as an Independent displays UNITY as a party and progressiveness as an African American who can accept his defeat and support and endorse the party nominee.

Ignorant anonymous posters on TM’s blog muffled you out. His blog is too tabloid for me to stay on it. I have to say I am glad to read you on one of my favorite liberal Memphis politic blogs. They are nice and nasty, but they are nowhere near how it is on TM’s blog. Desi, I do not think you have to worry too much about “The White Bloggers” that is not my quote that was a quote from one of TM’s commenters…if I am not mistaken I believe it was the person who call him or herself “A Democrat”. I also have read the hits about you, but many others and I judge by character. I was about to go Independent until I start reading the people I mentioned above among others Memphis bloggers.

Freedonian said...

If you can look at Joe Ford Jr's conduct during and after the 9th District primary without thinking of "If" by Rudyard Kipling, then you just haven't read enough poetry.

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...

Freedonian said...

Joe,

I genuinely am pulling for Harold. I stand as far to the left of him as he stands to the left of Pat Buchanan. So it's no longer an ideological thing for me--- It's a "Let's get control of the committees so our own legislation gets to the floor" thing. I'm concerned about how he would vote on that legislation, but if we're getting ours onto the floor, that means we're stopping the GOP's from getting onto the floor.

Sadly, I think I'm fairly typical in that regard. I'm hungry for a return to the progressive politics of his father. Starving, in fact. There are a lot of cynical progressives right now that are waiting for the clarion call.

If HFJ had built a strong base from the beginning, then perhaps this energy would have caused 3rd party/indie voters to vote Democrat and for HFJ. As it stands, this may not happen.

And that is the saddest thing about it. The neglect of the Democratic base has made this a much tougher year than it had to be.

I'm hoping that you'll stick around, and that we can all work together and create a stronger city and a stronger ticket.

Freedonian said...

I am positive after reading this post WTL will probably share it with you.

I certainly hope he does. I'll email him and ask him for it.

Blinders, in that comment, you paid all of us some compliments so nice that I don't even know how to thank you.

Desi Franklin said...

Thanks, Blinders Off. Just want you to know that when I mentioned white bloggers, I just meant it as a fact.
These local bloggers (other than he whose blog should not be named - you know who I mean) are actually all white progressives. After spending a little time on that Other Blog (which seems to be for racists of every stripe plus the host blogger/porn king/personality disorder victim), I just have a vision for a competing Memphis blog with a lot of great progressive posts and comments - that is also easy to access for us loyal readers and is, therefore, more successful than a lot of fragmented efforts.

To Joe Ford, thank you for being so smart and courageous. It can't be particularly easy to be taking the position you are taking. And just as you are being a strategically unified Democrat post-primary, I hope those progressives who believe Jr. is too centrist will remember what might be at stake, not only nationally but locally, if he wins. And I do not mean pork.

Desi

veronica said...

Sorry, I don't share your enthusiasm for Joe Ford Jr. In fact, quite the opposite.

He is not gaining a reputation as a renegade. What reputation he is garnering, I couldn't repeat here. Rather, TM's caricature of him being a carpet-bagger, is more apt.

Joe Ford Jr is not courageous - he is merely an opportunist. He's not qualified to run for Congress. Pratcher seems to have shown some integrity in pulling out of the race, for the sake of unity. Same can't be said for Joe Ford Jr, who fought to the bitter end. Now, however, he thinks he's calculated correctly, which side of the bread his butter should be on.

What has Joe Ford Jr contributed to the betterment of Memphis? Afer all, he's barely had a few months residency and flew in especially, making arrogant statements as though he was THE man! He is transparent to all who want to see. His arrogant attitude and reputation will follow him around like a bad smell.

As much as it is apparent that I dislike Joe Ford Jr, I think he is strategic (as cunning as a fox) and has quickly mastered the skill of being able to speak out of both corners of his mouth, simultaneously. Not doubt, this will serve him well, as an aspiring politician.

He will not be able to "talk sense to HFJ" because, according to what he has sanctimoniously spouted over at TM's, he hardly has any communication/association with his other relatives.

And, it goes without saying, Mr Opportunist, with his evident personal ambition, will indeed stick around. Despite no visible record of any public service either in TN/CA, he probably thinks Memphis is a hick town and ripe for the pickings.

He got into bed with TM and some of the bloggers over there are crude but were making some pertinent remarks about Joe Ford Jr's credentials, experience and lack of, motives and character, or lack of.

I agree that Jake Ford will probably split the local Democratic party and fuel resentment. Mr Opportunist, however, would never make such a faux pas and it has nothing to do with loyalty.

Joe Ford Jr is not loyal to his family morevoer, and if it means he can fool y'all here, you are either not astute, or are playing some sort of game. Either way, Joe Ford Jr is showing his political stripes/expediency already. Pass the sick bucket.

Freedonian, in certain quarters it's not considered PC to quote Rudyard Kipling, when referencing a black person. I guess this comment will flush out some latent bigotry from some. Writings by people like Kipling are considered culturally insensitive, at best. But as we can see with Steve Gilliard blacking-up Joe Lieberman, you progressives have a ways to go.

However, as things didn't work out with Joe and TM, I'm sure y'all will make a great bed-fellow - progressives and opportunist - great combo.

Freedonian said...

Veronica,

I wouldn't quote Kipling on race relations. Nor would I quote Joseph Conrad, H. Rider Haggard, nor several authors.

But when it comes to lauding someone for doing the right thing, for rising above a maelstrom of insanity that surrounds them, I'm not aware of a better piece to use. If you've got one, I'm listening. Personally, I didn't really even think of it on that level, but I can certainly understand.

TM's caricature of him being a carpet-bagger, is more apt.


Has Joe Jr. lived here as long as I'd like for a congressional candidate? Of course not. That's the reason that I and several others have expressed a wish for him to "stick around". After the relative disappointment that Harold Jr. has been to actual progressives, we want to see the Ford name returned to the glory it once had when Harold Sr. occupied that seat.

Know what, though? Give Harold Jr. and Joe Jr. an address in Memphis and see which one could find it first. HFJ has served five terms as the Congressman in this district, and I believe Joe's spent more time here.

He will not be able to "talk sense to HFJ" because, according to what he has sanctimoniously spouted over at TM's, he hardly has any communication/association with his other relatives.

Nor do I expect him to. To what end? Is HFJ going to become the congressman the 9th district deserves in the last two months of his final term? I wouldn't ask Joe to talk to him. If someone feels the need to close the barn door after the horse is already out, they'll do so without my urging.

Joe Ford Jr is not loyal to his family morevoer, and if it means he can fool y'all here, you are either not astute, or are playing some sort of game. Either way, Joe Ford Jr is showing his political stripes/expediency already. Pass the sick bucket.


Families of all kinds can disagree on politics, and family members fall out of favor with one another all of the time. It doesn't take a political campaign to make that happen. He owes them no more and no less than they owe him.

My father didn't agree with my politics. My uncles don't either. I was embarrassed to turn on CSPAN during the 2004 campaign and see my own uncle sitting on front row at a George W. Bush speech. I'm damn near the only Democrat in my family, and the only one that cares enough about politics to get involved with Democratic candidates.

Am I being disloyal to the family by being an extremely liberal Democrat? No.

He's not airing the family's dirty laundry. If he was, it wouldn't be here--- Maybe on TM.

He just disagrees with his cousin splitting the party. And does he even clash with the family on that? HFJ hasn't said, nor has HF1. Where does Opehelia stand? John? Joe Sr?

Who has actually said where they stand?

Joe Jr. did right by the family. The SCDP is held together by a thin thread, and Harold Jr. needs a strong, unified organization at his back if he's to stand a chance.

Your loathing of Joe is misdirected.

Kate said...

"Freedonian, in certain quarters it's not considered PC to quote Rudyard Kipling, when referencing a black person. I guess this comment will flush out some latent bigotry from some. Writings by people like Kipling are considered culturally insensitive, at best."

And in some quarters it's not considered informed or intelligent to completely disregard historical standpoints at the time of writing when making social generalizations about an author.

veronica said...

Freedonian, points largely taken. I do appreciate and respect that, although I have been a little ruff round the edges, you have remained civil.

However, I sincerely do not believe that I am wrong on Joe Ford Jr. Time will tell.

As for HFJ, I can glean from reading local blogs that attention paid to his so-called base may have been scant. Regrettable. It could cost him dearly.

You may be relieved to hear that I don't often have the patience to engage on bloggs. To an extent this is because I know that, when dealing with so-called progressives, invariably, I am going to be peeved by (unwitting) ignorance and (intentional) condescension, respectively.

Examples:

Blinders off: "... and progressiveness as an African American who can accept his defeat and support and endorse the party nominee.

Kate: "And in some quarters it's not considered informed or intelligent to completely disregard historical standpoints at the time of writing when making social generalizations about an author."

Freedonian, Kate obliged by demonstrating one of my points. However, I am actually heartened that you are "informed and intelligent" enough to graciously acknowledge the (contextualized) point I was making about Kipling.

Keep on stirring the pot. All the best.

Veronica said...

PS. "But when it comes to lauding someone for doing the right thing, for rising above a maelstrom of insanity that surrounds them, I'm not aware of a better piece to use. If you've got one, I'm listening."



Not a perfect fit, but this speaks defiance, in the face of colonial adversity and oppression, potently.


"If we must die, let it not be like hogs
Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,
While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,
Making their mock at our accursed lot.
If we must die, O let us nobly die,
So that our precious blood may not be shed
In vain; then even the monsters we defy
Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!
O kinsmen we must meet the common foe!
Though far outnumbered let us show us brave,
And for their thousand blows deal one deathblow!
What though before us lies the open grave?
Like men we'll face the murderous, cowardly pack,
Pressed to the wall, dying, but fighting back!" (Claude MacKay)

JSF said...

Veronica--

He is not gaining a reputation as a renegade. What reputation he is garnering, I couldn't repeat here.

What reputation might that be? I have had numerous people praise me for running. I get telephone calls from people in the District everyday who are happy that I ran a positive campaign that was focused on issues. There will always be haters, so it doesn't surprise me that there are people who are mad at me for whatever reason.

Joe Ford Jr is not courageous - he is merely an opportunist. He's not qualified to run for Congress. Pratcher seems to have shown some integrity in pulling out of the race, for the sake of unity. Same can't be said for Joe Ford Jr, who fought to the bitter end. Now, however, he thinks he's calculated correctly, which side of the bread his butter should be on.

You could easily make the argument that almost any candidate in an open Congressional race is an "opportunist." Other than Sen. Cohen (who won the race), I feel my qualifications are equal and/or better than any of the opponents that were in the race. I would put my knowledge on federal issues up against any one of my former opponents, and I know that I would have done well. As for Tyson Pratcher, he probably got out of the race because he never did any campaigning despite raising nearly $100,000. Did anyone ever see one piece of campaign material from Mr. Pratcher? I do not know the reasons why he got out of the race, but if you are not willing to work, then you should get out of a race.

What has Joe Ford Jr contributed to the betterment of Memphis? Afer all, he's barely had a few months residency and flew in especially, making arrogant statements as though he was THE man! He is transparent to all who want to see. His arrogant attitude and reputation will follow him around like a bad smell.

I am from Memphis -- born and raised from 1974-1991. I moved to California to attend college and law school. You act as if I only came to Memphis to run for office. I was not being arrogant. I was being confident. When I entered the race on February 24, 2006, I felt that I was more qualified than the other opponents in the race who had filed at that time. If it's arrogant to be confident about your abilities and skills, then I guess you can say I'm guilty as charged. To place 3rd when you are running a grassroots campaign is an accomplishment whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

He will not be able to "talk sense to HFJ" because, according to what he has sanctimoniously spouted over at TM's, he hardly has any communication/association with his other relatives.

Incorrect. I stated that I do not have much communication with certain members of the Ford family. There are other members whom I talk with on a regular basis. Between the Ford side of my family and my mother's side of my family, I have 22 uncles/aunts and hundreds of cousins. I am much closer to certain members than others.

And, it goes without saying, Mr Opportunist, with his evident personal ambition, will indeed stick around. Despite no visible record of any public service either in TN/CA, he probably thinks Memphis is a hick town and ripe for the pickings.

I am sorry that I don't issue press releases for every public benefit event I do. However, here are some things I have done which benefit the public. Since I have spent a majority of my time since high school in California, most of these things have been in California:

--Programmed an FM radio show for 2 years on community, non-profit radio in Santa Barbara, CA;

--Was a member of the Beverly Hills Bar Association Resolutions Committee (the organization that proposed new laws to the California Legislature);

--Represented and defended public entities such as Los Angeles County, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, Los Angeles County Unified School District and the South Coast Air Quality Management District;

--Was a panel member for Legal Grind (a low-cost law services provider to middle-class families where people could receive 15 minutes of legal counsel for $25). I received no pay for my participation.

--Gave pro-bono legal services to numerous individuals.

--Have spoken with Los Angeles inner-city high school students about the legal profession and the skills they need to enter the legal profession.

--Registered hundreds of new voters in Memphis, TN during the HUSTLE 2 VOTE campaign.

Joe Ford Jr is not loyal to his family morevoer, and if it means he can fool y'all here, you are either not astute, or are playing some sort of game. Either way, Joe Ford Jr is showing his political stripes/expediency already. Pass the sick bucket.

Please show me how I have not been loyal to my family. You continually accuse me of not being loyal yet you have never pointed out any factual basis for your accusations. I have said from jump that I will be supporting the Democratic nominee (no matter who may have won). Have you ever heard me say anything negative about my family? If so, please cite a specific reference.

However, as things didn't work out with Joe and TM, I'm sure y'all will make a great bed-fellow - progressives and opportunist - great combo.

What are you talking about when you say things didn't work out? I countered every negative point that someone made about me over there with valid points. I'm not scared to debate people -- especially people who don't like me. I still post on and read TM's blog. I will continue to do so no matter what someone may say.

As for my future plans, I stay consistent. I will say what I have always said. I am taking the TN Bar Examination in February. If I am blessed to pass it, then I will open up a law practice in Memphis and focus on providing low-cost legal services to hard-working individuals. As for politics, I may run for an office again, but it is not something I am considering or even thinking about at this point in time.

Blinders Off said...

Veronica,

Let me explain the following statement you noted of mine:


Blinders off: "... and progressiveness as an African American who can accept his defeat and support and endorse the party nominee.

I respect what Joe Ford did, because I have worked on the last campaign in my small community, which is very much in need of diversity in the elective offices. The candidate I worked hard for and contribute monetary supported lost. His reaction was a black man cannot win in this city and he became very bitter.

I tried to explain to him this was his first time out and he was unknown. I suggested to him to get involved in the community and fight the administration when they make a decisions that is not in the best interest of the residents. To do that you have to attend the monthly mayor and aldermen meetings along with other board meetings to stay inform. Instead, he and others went back to the comfort of their lives. I did not see or hear from him again until he came to my home to get my signature to enter the school board race. He was the most qualified, but once again, he did not feel the need to connect with all the citizens here.

If it were not for me keeping up with what our leaders were doing or planning to do, we would have lost the only low-income apartment complex in our city. I was all alone in this effort, but by perseverance and research I was able to halt what the administration was about to do.
The apartment complex has now been renovated with the money the owners received under Title 42 and it is now 100% occupied.

It would have been a travesty if the city paid the owner of the complex over 1,000,000 to buy and destroy the complex when the owners’ received 500,000 of Title 42 money for upgrade.

Therefore, as African Americans and concerned citizens for the low and moderate income people (black and white) we have to do more than just throw our name on a ballot and expect to be elected because we are black. The person I am referring would have earned my respect if he accepted his defeats and start getting involved in our city. When I approach him to help me fight the above injustice against the low and moderate-income people in that complex he refused. In my opinion, it would have helped him when he ran for the school board and if he plans to run for alderman in 2008.

I personally do not want to be an alderman, although people are encouraging me to do so. I rather help people the way I always have, behind the scene. I do and will hold the leaders accountable in my city when they propose something that will negatively affect the citizens and city. It is hard to fight for people who do not want to or know how to fight for themselves, but as long as I am breathing, I will do my part.

That is why I commended Joe Ford Jr. he accepted his defeat, but he is not dropping out of sight licking his wounds until the next election come around. He is staying involved in his city and supported the best candidate for his district.

You can only respect his actions.

Kate said...

" I am going to be peeved by (unwitting) ignorance and (intentional) condescension, respectively.

Examples:

Blinders off: "... and progressiveness as an African American who can accept his defeat and support and endorse the party nominee.

Kate: "And in some quarters it's not considered informed or intelligent to completely disregard historical standpoints at the time of writing when making social generalizations about an author."

Freedonian, Kate obliged by demonstrating one of my points. However, I am actually heartened that you are "informed and intelligent" enough to graciously acknowledge the (contextualized) point I was making about Kipling."

If your point was that we're all condescending, that was far from the point of my post. The point of my post was that criticizing the citation of Kipling and construing it as insensitive is a textbook cheap shot.

Freedonian said...

However, I sincerely do not believe that I am wrong on Joe Ford Jr. Time will tell.

Indeed it will, Veronica.

The question is, if he does stick around, what does it take to turn you around?

As for HFJ, I can glean from reading local blogs that attention paid to his so-called base may have been scant. Regrettable. It could cost him dearly.

Guys like me, WTL, Cracker, Brad Watkins, and a ton of others want to build a genuine progressive base. We want to build the party on every level. You don't do that by playing the "50% + 1 vote" game that the centrists are playing. They're so busy trying to grab the crumbs that fall from the GOP's table that thyey overlook base-building. They step over a ten dollar bill to pick up a dime. Unfortunately for him and for the people of Tennessee, HFJ has cast his lot with them.

You may be relieved to hear that I don't often have the patience to engage on bloggs.

Well, I'm glad you chose this one.

I believe Kate and Blinders have spoken for themselves, so I'll skip that part and go right to the poem.

That one is phenomenal. I'd heard of McKay, but I was under the impression that he usually wrote in Patois.

I don't think it said what I want to say about Joe, but it does fit nicely with a post I'm planning for the weekend, so I thank you for pointing it out.

Veronica said...

Hi Freedonian,

Something tells me you are a real gentleman with leadership qualities and, importantly, polite, mature, sensitive and fair, when it comes to being a referee:-)

On reflection, at this point, I think I'm much too angry to be coherent/objective regarding Mr Joe Ford Jr.

Generally-speaking, I suppose I'm disillusioned by what is currently 'tolerated' as being representation/public service/political discourse etc. Admittedly, I didn't particularly raise the tone - this time round.

I'm quite uncomplicated and simply have a low threshold for politicking and bs. Increasingly, I'm having to stave off cynicism, as I am beginning to regard politics merely as being a 'business' overrun by slugs.

If I really considered someone was courageous, altruistic and deserved the accolade of 'maverick' (given the current climate), I believe I would be a cheerleader and show the greatest respect.

Nevertheless, I am somewhat encouraged to hear about people sincerely striving to build a genuinely progressive base.

My selection of poem is stark but then so are the issues, choices and challenges ahead of us.

Thank you for not dismissing me as a troll. This particular subject matter rattled my cage. I will drop-in again.

PS. blinders off, apologies. I think you are 'good people'. You took time to explain and not justify, which I can relate to. You sound like a self-less activist, in the truest sense.

Freedonian said...

Something tells me you are a real gentleman with leadership qualities and, importantly, polite, mature, sensitive and fair, when it comes to being a referee:-)

Shhh! You'll get me a bad reputation! :)

threshold for politicking and bs. Increasingly, I'm having to stave off cynicism, as I am beginning to regard politics merely as being a 'business' overrun by slugs.

That's always the hardest part. The second hardest is keeping good people from becoming slugs once they have the job.

All I can say is "Hang in there". Change is always slow, but it shows up eventually.

Nevertheless, I am somewhat encouraged to hear about people sincerely striving to build a genuinely progressive base.

Keep your ear close to the ground--- I heard some ideas yesterday that I believe could go an incredibly long way towards making the Democratic Party a genuine progressive organization once again. The good news is that others were hearing them at the same time.

Thank you for not dismissing me as a troll. This particular subject matter rattled my cage. I will drop-in again.


Not a problem, Veronica. I'm looking forward to hearing from you again.

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